The Center for Creative Photography recently named Joshua Chuang chief curator, a position he’ll assume in April. Chuang comes to the CCP from the Yale University Art Gallery, where he is the Richard Benson Associate Curator of Photography and Digital Media. He joined the Yale University Art Gallery over a decade ago and in 2007 was appointed its first dedicated curator of photography. The CCP, though, is a much different animal. Co-founded by Ansel Adams in 1975, the organization, which is located at the University of Arizona, Tucson, holds the largest collection of fine art photographs in North America, with the archives of more than 60 renowned 20th-century American photographers including Ansel Adams, Louise Dahl-Wolfe, Garry Winogrand, Edward Weston, and Harry Callahan. At Yale, Chuang organized the touring retrospective “Robert Adams: The Place We Live,” and headed up Yale’s acquisition of the Lee Friedlander archive. ARTINFO caught up with Chuang to hear about his plans for the CCP, which archives he’s got his eye on, and how he feels about relocating to the Old Pueblo.
What is the main difference between your role at the Yale Art Gallery and the CCP?
At Yale, I have been primarily responsible for a collection of photographs that resides within a broader, more encyclopedic collection of other kinds of art, including Greek and Roman sculpture, African tribal objects, European panel paintings, Japanese screens, and the like. Given the gallery’s 11 curatorial departments and three temporary exhibition spaces, however, I was only able to organize a show every two to three years.
The CCP’s collection is, of course, solely composed of photographs and related materials, and there I’ll be in charge of at least two exhibitions a year. Even though I’m headed to a medium-specific institution, I’m really grateful for the experience of having worked with colleagues and collections from a diversity of fields and perspectives. It will undoubtedly inform what I do at the Center.
How is the CCP different from the Yale Art Gallery in terms of its photography collection?
At Yale, I’ve worked with Jock Reynolds to build a collection that numbered a little more than 2,000 photographs before his arrival as director in 1998, to one that numbers over 14,000 pictures today. Granted, this rapid growth was more deep than wide: more than 7,000 of those works are by either Robert Adams, Lee Friedlander, or Donald Blumberg, whose master sets the gallery owns. The Center, by contrast, has a collection of more than 90,000 works and five million archival objects that represent a rich cross-section of the history of photography in the 20th century. It’s a totally different scale.
Part of your role at the CCP will be acquisitions. At Yale, you spearheaded the acquisition of the Lee Friedlander archive. Are there any archives that you have your eye on to acquire for the CCP?
Since I haven’t yet started working there, it would be premature to give you names. But there are many obvious candidates — important photographers in their 60s, 70s, and 80s who may be ready to part with their archives and deposit them in institutions where they can be studied and shared. Thus far the CCP has focused on acquiring the work of great 20th-century North American photographers. I hope to be able to broaden that purview without neglecting opportunities to strengthen its core.
Is there competition among other institutions or galleries for certain archives? It seems like more galleries are getting into the game, like Gagosian representing the Richard Avedon foundation.
Yes, but I should clarify the difference between an archive and an estate or foundation. Usually a photographer’s archive is a collection of primary source materials that relate directly to his or her artistic practice. It may include a representative group of prints, negatives, contact sheets, preliminary darkroom experiments, journals, and field notes. A photographer’s estate is typically the sum total of his or her assets (which may include an archive), and a photographer’s foundation is an entity meant to strategically disperse those assets over time in a manner that extends that photographer’s legacy.
As a collector of archives, the Center is constantly in dialogue with foundations or executors of estates. But it often begins discussions with photographers themselves. In the case of Avedon, the photographer deposited a portion of his archive at the Center before he passed away. He also set up a foundation which still owns many assets from the estate, including editions of prints which are actively exhibited and sold through Gagosian Gallery. The Center owns over 200 prints but the rest of the Avedon materials it houses are on loan from the Avedon Foundation, which is based in New York.
With regard to acquiring archives, what are some of the competing institutions?
In many respects, the CCP stands alone in its focus on acquiring photographic archives, but other museums and repositories have done so as well. To name a few, MoMA has thousands of Atget’s prints and negatives, the Met has the archives of Walker Evans and Diane Arbus, Princeton has Minor White, the Art Institute of Chicago has Irving Penn, and the George Eastman House has Lewis Hine. The Ransom Center and the Getty Research Institute have also been quite active in this area. But many of these institutions were built for caring for discrete works of art, not a mass of artists’ negatives, contact sheets, and working materials, which is a central function of the CCP. But in general I think it’s good that there are more places willing to preserve significant photographers’ archives and make them accessible.
What is the CCP’s position on digital materials?
To my knowledge, the CCP does not own any digital archives. The archives the Center has acquired up to now have been of photographers who have with worked primarily with film and paper. But photography’s digital present — and future — is something the Center will need to address as it continues to collect.
Do you plan on showing any contemporary artists in your exhibitions as well?
Definitely. But my aim is to make whatever material I may be working with — historical or contemporary — relevant to a contemporary audiences.
Do you have any specific shows that you’re already hoping to stage?
I’ve got a list of ideas as long as my arm but need to discuss them with my colleagues.
Will you be working under anyone at the CCP, as you did with Jock Reynolds at the Yale Art Gallery?
As my new director, Katherine Martinez, put it the other day, my new role will be the CCP’s “Chief Aesthetics Officer.” Although I will continue to rely on the advice of others, I’ll be primarily responsible for decisions about aesthetic content, whether acquired or generated.
How do you feel about living in Tucson?
I’m excited. I’ve had a hankering for the West for some time now, and this role gives me the opportunity to move there. Tucson hits the sweet spot of having a fairly high quality of life with a relatively low cost of living. It’s a really beautiful part of the country and I hope to help make it more of a destination for those who love and care about photography.